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		<title>Comment on Ice Cream by Kathy King</title>
		<link>http://chloroforminprint.org/2008/08/31/ice-cream/#comment-868</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, my very smart piano students. :0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, my very smart piano students. :0)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fort Gaines, Rust by Cat</title>
		<link>http://chloroforminprint.org/2009/05/11/fort-gaines-rust/#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 03:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice.

PS: Your camera got a cousin for Mother's Day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice.</p>
<p>PS: Your camera got a cousin for Mother&#8217;s Day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Daily Show by Globally Optimistic, : The Daily Show - attopbusiness</title>
		<link>http://chloroforminprint.org/2009/05/03/the-daily-show/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Globally Optimistic, : The Daily Show - attopbusiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 16:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I love The Daily Show and I think that it is probably the best source for actual reasoned commentary on TV (we all now the NPR is still the best in general). Jon interviewed Cliff May about torture this week and I think it was one the &#8230;  Read more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I love The Daily Show and I think that it is probably the best source for actual reasoned commentary on TV (we all now the NPR is still the best in general). Jon interviewed Cliff May about torture this week and I think it was one the &#8230;  Read more [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Old Snow by joshua</title>
		<link>http://chloroforminprint.org/2009/04/05/old-snow/#comment-775</link>
		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a filter in lightroom.  It could be sepia but i don't remember (there are several that are kinda like sepia).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a filter in lightroom.  It could be sepia but i don&#8217;t remember (there are several that are kinda like sepia).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Old Snow by Cat</title>
		<link>http://chloroforminprint.org/2009/04/05/old-snow/#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sepia in lightroom or a filter? either way, I might need it for my house. Maybe. You have so many that I like that it's tough to choose. You know one of your pictures from your grandmother's property is in our dining room, right? Right next to one of mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sepia in lightroom or a filter? either way, I might need it for my house. Maybe. You have so many that I like that it&#8217;s tough to choose. You know one of your pictures from your grandmother&#8217;s property is in our dining room, right? Right next to one of mine.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Criticisms of Lewis by Mike Brown</title>
		<link>http://chloroforminprint.org/2008/06/29/criticisms-of-lewis/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other examples of what I call the "para-material" realm are music and sexuality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other examples of what I call the &#8220;para-material&#8221; realm are music and sexuality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Criticisms of Lewis by Mike Brown</title>
		<link>http://chloroforminprint.org/2008/06/29/criticisms-of-lewis/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

I am a software developer who used to work with your brother, Peter.

Like you, I was raised in a Christian home. After completing college, I was agnostic, feeling unconvinced that I had good reason to believe in the existence of God. I read Mere Christianity and scribbled out arguments against Lewis' points. But, in the end, I like to say Lewis won the argument. I didn't think all his points were valid. But overall I thought he made a very compelling case. (And anyone who reads him can certainly tell he had a brilliant mind.) I'm not sure you accurately understood his argument, because it entail more than you summarized. You might consider re-reading the first part of the book.

From what I recall, one point I found particularly persuasive was the existence of morality, and that regardless of the details of any particular moral system, people instinctively know of and understand the concept of morality. Like most words, "morality" is a label for a thing we already know about "from the inside."

If one denies that there is any basis for the idea that man "ought" to be moral, then it becomes pretty hard to make heads or tails of most of life. For instance, why does torture offend you? Why do you value living matter over non-living matter, or think that certain types of living matter has "rights," and others don't (e.g. humans vs. bacteria)?

This, as well as the intelligent design argument, make me conclude that some para-material realm does indeed exist. (The presence of minds and consciousness is an example of this.)

I would recommend to you the short book There Is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind by Antony Flew.

I disagree with your mom in a sense. Many people use the word faith to mean blind faith, and view it as a virtue. I don't see it that way. I have "faith" in theism in the sense that I trust it to be true because, after thinking about it,  I have concluded that it is the most likely explanation for the way things are. You may have a similar "faith" in atheism. But I have seen that some people in both camps place their "faith" in one place or the other based upon a distaste for the implications of its opposite -- for instance, feeling rebellious against the idea that morality (especially private morality), or social pressure against being outside of the church one grew up in. I don't think I approached the question with a bias either way. I just wanted to know the truth about the way things really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>I am a software developer who used to work with your brother, Peter.</p>
<p>Like you, I was raised in a Christian home. After completing college, I was agnostic, feeling unconvinced that I had good reason to believe in the existence of God. I read Mere Christianity and scribbled out arguments against Lewis&#8217; points. But, in the end, I like to say Lewis won the argument. I didn&#8217;t think all his points were valid. But overall I thought he made a very compelling case. (And anyone who reads him can certainly tell he had a brilliant mind.) I&#8217;m not sure you accurately understood his argument, because it entail more than you summarized. You might consider re-reading the first part of the book.</p>
<p>From what I recall, one point I found particularly persuasive was the existence of morality, and that regardless of the details of any particular moral system, people instinctively know of and understand the concept of morality. Like most words, &#8220;morality&#8221; is a label for a thing we already know about &#8220;from the inside.&#8221;</p>
<p>If one denies that there is any basis for the idea that man &#8220;ought&#8221; to be moral, then it becomes pretty hard to make heads or tails of most of life. For instance, why does torture offend you? Why do you value living matter over non-living matter, or think that certain types of living matter has &#8220;rights,&#8221; and others don&#8217;t (e.g. humans vs. bacteria)?</p>
<p>This, as well as the intelligent design argument, make me conclude that some para-material realm does indeed exist. (The presence of minds and consciousness is an example of this.)</p>
<p>I would recommend to you the short book There Is a God: How the World&#8217;s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind by Antony Flew.</p>
<p>I disagree with your mom in a sense. Many people use the word faith to mean blind faith, and view it as a virtue. I don&#8217;t see it that way. I have &#8220;faith&#8221; in theism in the sense that I trust it to be true because, after thinking about it,  I have concluded that it is the most likely explanation for the way things are. You may have a similar &#8220;faith&#8221; in atheism. But I have seen that some people in both camps place their &#8220;faith&#8221; in one place or the other based upon a distaste for the implications of its opposite &#8212; for instance, feeling rebellious against the idea that morality (especially private morality), or social pressure against being outside of the church one grew up in. I don&#8217;t think I approached the question with a bias either way. I just wanted to know the truth about the way things really are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Criticisms of Lewis by melissaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>melissaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is one of the books she gave you "The Screwtape Letters?"  I find that one to be the most illuminating of Lewis' books.  Even if you are an atheist you will agree with some of the points he makes there as the book is not so much about religion as what it really means to live a life of faith.  Lots of discussion about hypocrisy and such. 

And, at the risk of offending since I am a first time commenter, mom is always right.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is one of the books she gave you &#8220;The Screwtape Letters?&#8221;  I find that one to be the most illuminating of Lewis&#8217; books.  Even if you are an atheist you will agree with some of the points he makes there as the book is not so much about religion as what it really means to live a life of faith.  Lots of discussion about hypocrisy and such. </p>
<p>And, at the risk of offending since I am a first time commenter, mom is always right.  <img src='http://chloroforminprint.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Criticisms of Lewis by Kathy King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree one hundred percent with Josh's mom.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Criticisms of Lewis by mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange, is it not, that we all live by faith?  Some decide to have faith in creator God-which cannot be proven.  Some decide to have faith in science-which is in the process of being proven-or not.  I look at a garden, my new laptop computer, or a beautiful child and I think, No designer?  How ridiculous.  Others see the same things and think they just happened.  We all live by faith--we just put our faith in different places.  I like to put mine in a God who love me-and I love Him.  
"Alll the parsons say is unproved.  All the doctors (scientists) say is disproved.  That's the only difference between science and religion there's ever been, or will be."  G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange, is it not, that we all live by faith?  Some decide to have faith in creator God-which cannot be proven.  Some decide to have faith in science-which is in the process of being proven-or not.  I look at a garden, my new laptop computer, or a beautiful child and I think, No designer?  How ridiculous.  Others see the same things and think they just happened.  We all live by faith&#8211;we just put our faith in different places.  I like to put mine in a God who love me-and I love Him.<br />
&#8220;Alll the parsons say is unproved.  All the doctors (scientists) say is disproved.  That&#8217;s the only difference between science and religion there&#8217;s ever been, or will be.&#8221;  G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936)</p>
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